Downtown Warren in the ‘60s seemed like the center of the universe to me. I guess it was the center of my universe. Harding, just a couple blocks from my house, was a few planets out from the sun. Close enough to be warm and fixed by gravity, but far enough out to have a life that was secret from our parents and other adults. But downtown – that’s where real grown-up life took place, and we began testing ourselves to see if we were up to its challenges somewhere around 8th or 9th grade – say 1963 or 64.
It was just as the Beatles hit, and part of my memories of downtown look a little like a scene from Hard Days Night – a loud soundtrack, a lot of pointless, frenetic action, and the disapproving stares of most of the adults we encountered.
A trip downtown usually meant taking one of the city’s cream and red colored buses, unless I needed to save the ten cent fare for a cherry coke at…where? I can’t remember -- was it Woolworths or S.S. Kresge’s? It was the five & dime on Courthouse Square right on Market Street, and all it took was a mere 45 years or so to erase its name from my memory. Anyway, I should say it wasn’t always a cherry Coke, there were vanilla Cokes, chocolate Cokes, and probably a couple others I don’t remember.
This is where we went to form alliances with other 14 and 15 year-olds across the city who went to other junior high schools. We knew we’d all be together in a year or so at Harding, but it was never too early to start probing one another for potential friends, enemies, or make-out partners. Turner, East and West were going to be left behind soon, so we crammed together into the booths at the lunch counter, drank our pre-beers and auditioned for the parts we’d play at the big school named for one of our least illustrious Presidents. It was a very exciting time.
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Dennis if this pans out I think you will have the content for a great book.
I remember the hot fudge sundays at Kresge's on Saturday afternoons. We would sit at the counter on the red vynal stools and giggle and gossip. Then look around the wooden bins for some bargins on cosmetics.
Then the girls would shop at Strauss's or Robertas while the guys played pool in the pool hall under the bank (Leftie's?). We weren't allowed to go down there so it still maintains an air of mystic in my mind.
I started my visits downtown in 6th grade when I was required to take ballroom dancing at the Y. I think this was a hold over from the 50's as I never went to a dance where any of my dance partners had a remote idea of how to waltz or fox trot.
The place for the french fries and cherry/vanilla cokes was a drug store and my recollection says it started with a "C" but that is no guarantee. Babs Krause should know since her dad had his office on the upper floor.
I loved downtown. It was like going to another city, away from parental sanctions and a chance to catch up on all of the news from the week. At 16 when I worked at Vogue records and Men's Wear, I remember getting in trouble regularly with Gloria Gray and all of the people who would stop out front to dance to the latest music. And don't forget the color on color shirts with the big collars that we sold as well.
My favorite place to eat was the Saratoga. Nothing like a bowl of turtle soup and a fresh tomato sandwich. Just the thought of that makes me want to buy a plane ticket home.
One last memory is the New Year's Eve you and I went to the movies and when we came out the clock on the bank across from the Theatre had the wrong date. Do you remember exactly what it said? It made our night.
Fondly, Corky
Hi Denny (can't seem to call you Dennis) Wasn't the name of the hangout Thrifts Drugstore..I don't know why that stands out in my mind.I'll write more later. It's late. Nancy
Nancy, feel free to call me anything you like.
Carle is saying Kresge's, which might be right. I think Thrift's was another place than the one I'm think of. Only Babs knows for sure.
The pool hall was "The Hole." I wasn't allowed to go there, although I stopped in a couple of times just to say I'd been there. It was mildly threatening – lots of guys with white-on-white shirts and tailored pants.
I sure do remember that New Year’s Eve, and I believe the clock read “December 32.”
Yes, Nancy, it was Thrifts Drugstore. It was the place for the fries and flavored cokes. I don't think they liked us very much. And Kresge's had the unforgettable hot fudge sundays. God, were they really that good???
Yes, Denny, it was December 32nd. Didn't we go get a camera and take a picture of it? Sometimes I wonder if these things really happened or if I am just making them up. Regardless, they are fond memories.
Another memory was Packard Park for so many things. Swimming in the summer (and Benny Vancure), the party house for many birthdays, Packard Music Hall and the Kenley Players and watching the actors on break (including my personal favorite, Jill Klippel, and of course, sledding for hours and ice skating in the winter. It was in many ways something out of a book about those times.
Warren was a great place to grow up. Unfortunately, it hasn't been able to sustain that midwest charm.
Corky
Hey everyone, there is a website about Paul Lynde, who was one of the first and often featured Kenley Players.The link is http://paullyndestory.blogspot.com/2006/02/kenley-players.html and there are some quotes from a couple of people who grew up in Warren and remember it fondly.
Corky
Anyone out there from the class of '68?
Memories - Mosquito Lake, WGH PreFries, The BIRD for English, Papa Benchwick and frog dissection. PANTHERS! Dance Assembly. WOW - Roberta's and Vogue Records. Our kids don't even know what vinyl is. The Belvedere.
Drive in theaters - what was it called? The one on Elm Road.
Elm Road Drive in, I think. If not, Skyway.
Two other favorite memories of downtown were playing giant games of tag with dozens of people running around everywhere, and David Toda organizing a demonstration on the steps of the public library in which he burned his library card – presumably in sympathy for college students who were then burning draft cards across the country.
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